Episode #634

IPFS vs. The Cloud: The Quest for Ultimate Redundancy

Can a decentralized network replace Amazon and Google? Herman and Corn dive into IPFS, content-addressing, and the risks of "forever" data.

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In the latest episode of My Weird Prompts, hosts Herman and Corn Poppleberry dive deep into the technical weeds of data preservation. The discussion was sparked by their housemate Daniel, who is currently managing a massive archival project: backing up over 600 episodes of the podcast. While Daniel currently employs a standard "three-two-one" backup strategy—utilizing Cloudflare, Wasabi, and local storage—he raised a provocative question: Is it time to move beyond the "Big Cloud" entirely and embrace the Interplanetary File System (IPFS)?

The Shift from Location to Content

Herman begins by explaining the fundamental difference between how we currently use the internet and how a decentralized system like IPFS functions. Traditional storage, such as Amazon S3 or Google Drive, relies on "location-addressing." When you look for a file, your computer looks for a specific IP address or URL. If that server goes down or the account is banned, the data—no matter how many "nines" of durability the provider promises—becomes inaccessible.

IPFS flips this script through "content-addressing." Instead of asking where a file is, the network asks what the file is. Every piece of data is assigned a unique cryptographic fingerprint called a Content Identifier (CID). As Herman explains to Corn, it doesn’t matter if the file comes from a server in Tokyo or a laptop next door; as long as the hash matches the CID, the data is verified. This theoretical "ultimate redundancy" means that as long as one node on Earth is hosting the file, it remains alive on the network.

The Practicalities of Privacy and "Pinning"

Corn raises an immediate and practical concern: if data is on a public, decentralized network, what happens to private information like tax returns or family photos? Herman clarifies a common misconception about IPFS. The protocol itself doesn't automatically broadcast your files to the world. For a backup workflow, data must be encrypted (using standards like AES-256) before it ever touches the network. In this scenario, the user is essentially backing up "encrypted blobs," where the CID serves as the address for an unreadable chunk of data that only the key-holder can unlock.

However, simply putting a file on IPFS doesn't mean it stays there forever. Herman introduces the concept of "pinning." On IPFS, nodes treat unpinned data as temporary cache. To ensure a backup survives, a user must "pin" the file, telling the node to keep it permanently. This leads to a modern irony: many users end up paying "pinning services" like Pinata or Infura to hold their data. While this may feel like recreating traditional cloud storage, Herman argues the advantage is the lack of vendor lock-in. Because CIDs are universal, if one service fails, the user can simply point a different service to the same CID without re-uploading terabytes of data.

The Recovery Headache

The conversation takes a skeptical turn when discussing the recovery process. Unlike the high-speed "GET" requests of Amazon S3, retrieving data from IPFS can be a slow, fragmented experience. Herman describes the Distributed Hash Table (DHT), a decentralized "phone book" that nodes must query to find who has a specific CID.

Once the providers are found, the data is transferred via "BitSwap," a protocol similar to BitTorrent that pulls chunks of data from various peers. For a large-scale archive like Daniel’s 600 episodes, this could mean a recovery time of days rather than hours, with no Service Level Agreement (SLA) to guarantee speed. Furthermore, Herman warns of a new kind of "single point of failure": the CID list itself. If a user loses the list of hashes for their backups, the data becomes effectively invisible. As Corn quips, "You need a backup for your backup’s addresses."

The "Un-ringable Bell": Legal and Scale Challenges

One of the most complex segments of the discussion involves the legal implications of immutability. In a traditional cloud environment, "deleting" a file is straightforward. In a decentralized network, if multiple nodes have pinned or cached a file, it is nearly impossible to remove.

Herman explains that for businesses with data-retention compliance needs, the only solution is "crypto-shredding"—deleting the encryption key so the data remaining on the network becomes useless noise. However, the "blob" remains. This "censorship-resistant" nature is a boon for activists but a nightmare for compliance officers. While web gateways (like those run by Cloudflare) can block certain CIDs from appearing in browsers, the data persists on the underlying network.

The Irony of Decentralization

Perhaps the most surprising insight of the episode is the current physical reality of IPFS. Despite being a decentralized protocol, a massive percentage of IPFS nodes currently run on centralized infrastructure like AWS and Google Cloud. Herman notes that for now, the "path of least resistance" involves running decentralized protocols on the very servers they were meant to replace.

Ultimately, Herman and Corn conclude that while IPFS offers a fascinating glimpse into a "permanent web," it currently serves best as a specialized tool for those who prioritize vendor independence and censorship resistance over speed and simplicity. For the average user, the "Big Cloud" remains a hard habit to break—even if it means trusting a single corporation with your digital life.

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Episode #634: IPFS vs. The Cloud: The Quest for Ultimate Redundancy

Corn
Hey everyone, welcome back to My Weird Prompts. I am Corn, and I am sitting here in our living room in Jerusalem with my brother, the man who probably has more redundant hard drives than he has pairs of socks.
Herman
Herman Poppleberry at your service. And hey, you can never have too many backups, Corn. One is none, two is one, and three is barely getting started. Although, after hearing the prompt our housemate Daniel sent over today, I might need to rethink my entire strategy.
Corn
Yeah, Daniel has been on a bit of a mission lately, hasn't he? He mentioned he is currently backing up over six hundred episodes of this very podcast. He is using Cloudflare for hosting, Wasabi for a secondary cloud bucket, and then syncing it all down to a local storage server.
Herman
It is a solid three-two-one backup strategy. Three copies of the data, on two different media, with one copy off-site. But Daniel is asking the big question: what if we could go beyond the big cloud providers entirely? He is looking into distributed file systems, specifically the Interplanetary File System, or I-P-F-S, as a way to achieve what he calls ultimate redundancy.
Corn
It is a fascinating jump. We are moving from trusting a few massive corporations to trusting a decentralized network of potentially thousands of individual nodes. But as with everything in the world of decentralized tech, the devil is in the details. Is it actually better for backups, or is it just more complicated?
Herman
That is exactly what we are going to tear apart today. We will look at the redundancy claims, the actual recovery process—because a backup is useless if you cannot get it back—and the legal and scaling headaches that come with putting your data out into the wild.
Corn
So let us start with the core concept. Redundancy. Most people think of cloud storage as this magical, indestructible place. If I put a file in Amazon S-three or Wasabi, it is safe, right?
Herman
Mostly, yes. Those providers have incredible durability ratings. We are talking eleven nines of durability in some cases. That means if you store ten million objects, you might lose one every ten thousand years. But the point Daniel raised is the single point of failure. It is not about a hard drive failing at Amazon; it is about the account itself. You get locked out, the company changes its terms of service, or there is a massive regional outage like the one we saw last year that took down half the internet.
Corn
Right, and that is where the Interplanetary File System comes in. For those who might not be deep in the weeds, how does it fundamentally differ from something like Wasabi or Google Drive?
Herman
The biggest shift is moving from location-addressing to content-addressing. In a traditional setup, if I want to find an episode of My Weird Prompts, I go to a specific U-R-L. That U-R-L points to a specific server at a specific I-P address. If that server is down, I am out of luck.
Corn
But with I-P-F-S, I am not looking for a location; I am looking for the thing itself.
Herman
Exactly. Every file in I-P-F-S is hashed. You get a unique fingerprint called a Content Identifier, or a C-I-D. If I want episode five hundred, I ask the network, hey, who has the file with this specific fingerprint? It does not matter who gives it to me, as long as the hash matches. It could be a server in Tokyo, a laptop in London, or a node running right here in Jerusalem.
Corn
So in theory, as long as one person on earth has that file pinned and is connected to the network, the file exists and is accessible. That sounds like the ultimate redundancy. But here is my first concern, Herman. If I am backing up my private data, say, my tax returns or family photos, I do not necessarily want the whole world to be able to find them by their fingerprint.
Herman
And that is a huge misconception people have about these systems. I-P-F-S is a protocol, not a storage service. If you just add a file to your local I-P-F-S node, you are the only one who has it. Other people can only download it if they know the C-I-D and your node is online. For a backup workflow, you would absolutely have to encrypt everything before it even touches the network using something like A-E-S-two-fifty-six. You would be backing up encrypted blobs. The C-I-D would just be the address for that encrypted chunk of data.
Corn
Okay, so I encrypt my data, I get my C-I-D, and I push it to the network. How do I ensure it stays there? Because if I turn my computer off, and no one else has requested that file, it effectively vanishes from the network, right?
Herman
This is where the concept of pinning comes in. In the I-P-F-S world, pinning is the act of telling a node, hey, do not delete this. Do not treat it like temporary cache. Keep a permanent copy. For a backup workflow, you would either need to run your own always-on nodes in different physical locations, or use a pinning service. There are companies like Pinata or Infura that basically charge you a monthly fee to keep your C-I-Ds pinned on their high-availability servers.
Corn
Wait a minute. If I am paying a company like Pinata to pin my files, haven't I just recreated traditional cloud storage with extra steps? I am back to trusting a single provider.
Herman
That is the sharpest critique of the current state of I-P-F-S. If you are just using one pinning service, you have not gained much redundancy. The real power comes from the fact that the C-I-D is universal. If Pinata goes out of business tomorrow, I do not have to re-upload my terabytes of data to a new provider. I just go to a different pinning service and say, hey, go find this C-I-D on the network and start pinning it. Or I could spin up my own server and do it. The data is not trapped in a proprietary silo. It is just out there in the ether, and I am just choosing who I pay to hold onto it for me.
Corn
That is an interesting distinction. It is like having a storage unit where the key works at every storage facility in the world. You are not locked into the landlord; you are just renting the space. But let us talk about the recovery process. Daniel asked what that actually looks like. If my house burns down and I lose my local server, how do I get my six hundred episodes back from the decentralized web?
Herman
It is actually a bit more nerve-wracking than a traditional download. In S-three, you just hit a G-E-T request and the data starts flowing at maximum speed. In I-P-F-S, your client has to query something called a Distributed Hash Table, or a D-H-T. It is basically a massive, decentralized phone book. Your node asks its neighbors, who has this C-I-D? They ask their neighbors, and so on.
Corn
It sounds like it could be slow.
Herman
It can be incredibly slow. Finding the providers for a file can take seconds or even minutes depending on the network health. And then, once you find them, you have to connect and start the transfer using a protocol called BitSwap. It is a bit like BitTorrent, where you can pull different pieces of a file from different peers simultaneously. For a large backup, like Daniel's archive, you would be pulling thousands of small chunks from various nodes.
Corn
And if those nodes have low upload bandwidth, your recovery time could be days instead of hours.
Herman
Exactly. And there is no service level agreement. If you are relying on the public network, no one owes you speed. This is why for professional workflows, people use private I-P-F-S networks or dedicated peering. But for a home user, you are at the mercy of the peers. The other thing is that you have to keep track of those C-I-Ds. If you lose the list of fingerprints for your files, you are finished. There is no forgot password button on the blockchain or the D-H-T. If you do not have the hash, the data is invisible.
Corn
So you need a backup for your backup's addresses. It is turtles all the way down. But let us move to the legal side of things, because this is where it gets really sticky. Daniel asked about content removal. Let us say he accidentally backs up something that he later gets a legal notice for. In a traditional cloud, you just hit delete, the provider wipes the sectors, and you are done. In a distributed network, how do you take it down?
Herman
Short answer? You don't. Not really. This is the double-edged sword of decentralization. If you push a file to the network and other people or services decide to pin it, you have lost control. It is like trying to un-ring a bell. You can stop pinning it on your end, you can ask your pinning service to delete it, but if some node in another country has cached it or pinned it, it stays alive.
Corn
That sounds like a nightmare for liability. If I am a business and I have a legal requirement to delete customer data after five years, can I even use I-P-F-S?
Herman
Technically, if the data is encrypted and you destroy the encryption key, the data is effectively gone because it is just noise. This is called crypto-shredding. But the encrypted blob still exists. From a strictly technical standpoint, I-P-F-S has no built-in delete button for the network. There is garbage collection on individual nodes, where unpinned data eventually gets cleared out to make room for new stuff. But if a file is popular, or if it has been archived by a third party, it is permanent.
Corn
And what about the gateways? Most people interact with I-P-F-S through web gateways, right? Like the one run by Cloudflare or the I-P-F-S dot I-O gateway.
Herman
Right. Gateways are the bridge. They let you use a regular browser to see I-P-F-S content. If a legal notice comes in, a gateway provider can block a specific C-I-D. So, if you try to visit that hash through the Cloudflare gateway, you will get a four-zero-four or a legal warning. But the data is still on the network. Anyone running a local node or using a different gateway can still see it. It is censorship-resistant, which is great for activists, but potentially terrifying for compliance officers.
Corn
It feels like we are moving toward a world where data is immutable by default, and we have to build layers on top of it to simulate the ability to forget.
Herman
That is exactly it. There are some interesting projects trying to handle this, though. Some systems use a layer called I-P-N-S, the Interplanetary Naming System, where a fixed name points to a C-I-D, and you can update that name to point to nothing. But the original data is still there if you know the original C-I-D. It is a fundamental shift in how we think about digital existence.
Corn
Let us talk about scale. Daniel's archive is significant, but it is not exabytes. Traditional cloud providers like Amazon handle truly massive scales of data. How does a decentralized network compare when we are talking about petabytes or exabytes?
Herman
This is where the physics of the network starts to bite. In a centralized data center, you have high-speed fiber interconnects between racks. You can move data at incredible speeds. In a decentralized network, you are limited by the slowest link in the chain. Managing a global hash table that indexes petabytes of data is a massive computational challenge.
Corn
So is I-P-F-S fundamentally different from the infrastructure of A-W-S, or is it just a different way of organizing the same old servers?
Herman
It is fundamentally different in architecture, but in practice, it often sits on top of the same infrastructure. If you look at where most I-P-F-S nodes are actually running, a huge percentage of them are hosted on Amazon Web Services, Google Cloud, and DigitalOcean.
Corn
Wait, really? So we are using a decentralized protocol that is running on centralized servers?
Herman
For now, yes. It is the path of least resistance. It is much easier to spin up a high-performance I-P-F-S node in a data center than to rely on people's home internet connections. So, in a weird way, if A-W-S has a total global meltdown, a large chunk of the I-P-F-S network might go dark too. Now, the protocol allows for a more resilient future where we all have little storage nodes in our houses, but we are not there yet. The performance just isn't there for massive scaling without some level of centralization.
Corn
That is the irony of it. We are building these complex decentralized systems to escape the big providers, but we are using the big providers to make the systems fast enough to use.
Herman
It is a transition period. But there is another piece to the scaling puzzle, and that is incentives. Why would I, a random person in Jerusalem, use my hard drive space and my bandwidth to store Daniel's podcast episodes?
Corn
Exactly. Unless I am a fan, I have no reason to help him with his backup.
Herman
Right. And that is where things like Filecoin come in. Filecoin is basically an incentive layer built on top of I-P-F-S. It is a blockchain where you pay providers in cryptocurrency to store your data for a specific amount of time. As of early twenty-twenty-six, the Filecoin network is actually hosting over fifteen exabytes of data. They have to provide cryptographic proof, called Proof of Spacetime, to show they are actually holding your bits. This creates a competitive market for storage.
Corn
Does that make it more like a traditional cloud provider?
Herman
It makes it a decentralized marketplace. Instead of one company setting the price, you have thousands of providers bidding to store your data. It can be significantly cheaper than S-three, sometimes by a factor of ten or more. But the complexity is much higher. You have to manage wallets, deal with storage deals, and handle the possibility that a provider might just disappear and lose their collateral.
Corn
It sounds like a lot of work for a backup. I mean, if I am Daniel, I just want to know that if my laptop dies, I can get my files back. If I have to become a crypto-economic expert just to manage my off-site storage, I might just stick with Wasabi.
Herman
And that is the reality for most people right now. I-P-F-S and Filecoin are amazing for certain use cases, like public archives, scientific data sets, or censorship-resistant websites. But for a personal backup workflow, the friction is still very high. You are trading convenience for a very specific type of sovereign redundancy.
Corn
So let us look at the practical takeaways. If someone listening is thinking, okay, I want to try this. I want to move my backups to a distributed system. What is the actual workflow today?
Herman
If I were doing it, I would start with a tool like R-Clone. We have talked about R-Clone before on the show, it is like the Swiss Army knife of cloud storage. It actually has an I-P-F-S backend. So you could set up a script that encrypts your files, hashes them, and then pushes them to an I-P-F-S node or a pinning service.
Corn
But you still need that pinning service.
Herman
You do. Unless you want to run a server at your office and a server at your house and have them peer with each other. That would give you a private, distributed backup. If the house burns down, the office has the blocks. If the office burns down, the house has them. And since it is I-P-F-S, if you need to add a third location, it is as simple as spinning up a new node and telling it to pin the same C-I-Ds. It would pull the data from the other two nodes automatically.
Corn
That actually sounds like a very elegant way to manage multi-site backups without needing a central coordinator. No V-P-Ns, no complex sync software, just the I-P-F-S daemon running and sharing blocks.
Herman
Exactly. That is where the technology really shines. It is the protocolization of storage. Instead of having to configure a specific sync relationship between server A and server B, you just tell both servers to care about the same content. The network handles the discovery and the transfer.
Corn
Okay, but what about the legal side we mentioned earlier? If I am using this for a business, how do I handle the right to be forgotten?
Herman
You have to handle it at the encryption layer. As we said, crypto-shredding is the only real answer. You store the data on the distributed network, but you manage the keys in a centralized or more controlled way. If you need to delete a file, you delete the key. The encrypted blocks stay on I-P-F-S forever, but they are useless. They are just digital noise. It is not a perfect solution for every regulatory framework, but it is the standard way to handle immutability.
Corn
It is like throwing a locked safe into the middle of the ocean. The safe is still there, but if you melt the key, no one is ever getting inside.
Herman
That is a perfect analogy. And as long as the ocean is large enough and the safe is strong enough, that is effectively a deletion.
Corn
So, looking at the big picture, does I-P-F-S provide ultimate redundancy compared to multi-cloud?
Herman
I would say it provides a different kind of redundancy. Multi-cloud protects you against a provider failing. I-P-F-S protects you against the concept of a provider existing at all. It is a more robust, long-term architecture for the human race's data. If we want our podcast to be findable in a hundred years, I-P-F-S is a much better bet than hoping a specific company's billing system is still running.
Corn
I like that. It is about the longevity of the data itself, not the longevity of the contract.
Herman
Precisely. But for Daniel's immediate problem, which is making sure he doesn't lose the archive of My Weird Prompts next week, a combination of Wasabi and a local N-A-S is probably more reliable because the tooling is more mature. I-P-F-S is still in that early, exciting, but slightly broken phase.
Corn
It reminds me of the early days of Linux. You could do amazing things, but you had to be willing to spend your Saturday afternoon fixing a driver.
Herman
Exactly. We are still in the command-line era of distributed storage. But the progress is fast. Every year, the D-H-T gets more stable, the gateways get faster, and the integration with tools like R-Clone gets smoother.
Corn
One thing that struck me in Daniel's prompt was the mention of massive scales. We talked about how I-P-F-S can be slow, but there is also the issue of deduplication. That is a huge advantage for scale, isn't it?
Herman
Oh, absolutely. This is one of the hidden superpowers of content-addressing. Imagine you have a thousand people all backing up the same operating system files. In a traditional cloud, the provider stores a thousand copies. In I-P-F-S, because the address is the content, every node that has those files is contributing to the same C-I-D. The network effectively deduplicates at a global scale.
Corn
So if Daniel is backing up our episodes, and someone else is also backing them up, they are essentially helping each other.
Herman
Yes. They are part of the same swarm. If Daniel's node goes down, his recovery client can pull those blocks from the other person's node. That is a level of cooperative redundancy that you just don't get with traditional cloud providers. You are not just a customer; you are part of a library.
Corn
That is a beautiful way to think about it. The internet as a giant, shared library where we all help keep the books on the shelves.
Herman
It is a very optimistic vision of technology. And I think that is why people like Daniel are so drawn to it. It feels more like the original spirit of the web. Peer-to-peer, resilient, and not owned by anyone.
Corn
But we have to balance that optimism with the reality of latency and complexity. I think my takeaway for today is that I-P-F-S is an incredible secondary or tertiary backup target. Use your traditional cloud for the stuff you might need to recover tomorrow. Use I-P-F-S for the stuff you want to make sure exists for your grandchildren.
Herman
I agree. It is the deep archive. The digital time capsule. And for a podcast like ours, where we are talking about these weird, evolving ideas, there is something poetic about storing it on a system that is designed to outlive us all.
Corn
Even the episodes where we just argue about your hard drive collection?
Herman
Especially those, Corn. Those are historical documents. Future civilizations need to know the struggle of managing sixteen terabyte parity drives.
Corn
God help them. Well, I think we have covered a lot of ground here. We looked at the content-addressing model, the reality of pinning versus magical storage, the legal headaches of immutability, and why we are still tethered to the big cloud providers even when we try to escape.
Herman
It is a journey. We are not at the destination yet, but the road is being built under our feet. And hey, before we wrap up, I should probably mention that if you are out there listening and you have your own weird backup strategies, or if you have actually managed to build a seamless I-P-F-S workflow, we want to hear about it.
Corn
Definitely. You can reach out through the contact form at myweirdprompts dot com. We love hearing how people are applying these ideas in the real world.
Herman
And if you are enjoying the show, whether you are on episode one or episode six hundred and twenty-six, we would really appreciate a quick review on your podcast app or on Spotify. It genuinely helps the show reach new people who are just as nerdy as we are.
Corn
Yeah, it makes a big difference. We are available on Spotify, and you can find the full R-S-S feed and all our past episodes at our website.
Herman
Which, for the record, is backed up in at least four different places now. Thanks to Daniel.
Corn
At least. Alright, I think that is a wrap for today. This has been My Weird Prompts. I am Corn.
Herman
And I am Herman Poppleberry. Thanks for joining us in the living room.
Corn
Stay curious, and keep those backups redundant. We will talk to you next time.
Herman
Goodbye everyone.

This episode was generated with AI assistance. Hosts Herman and Corn are AI personalities.

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