#3389: Term Limits vs. The Will of the People

Can a democracy be too democratic? We explore the tension between term limits and majority rule.

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This episode explores a foundational tension in democratic governance: term limits. On one hand, they appear anti-democratic—a piece of paper overriding the majority's preference for a popular leader. On the other, they exist precisely to prevent the slow erosion of democratic institutions by a long-serving executive. The discussion uses two starkly contrasting case studies: the United States, with its Twenty-Second Amendment capping presidents at two terms (a direct reaction to FDR's unprecedented four terms), and Israel, whose Basic Law imposes no term limit on the prime minister at all, allowing Benjamin Netanyahu to serve over sixteen years.

The philosophical core of the debate is the "democratic paradox" identified by political theorist Robert Dahl: democracies need both responsiveness to voters and structural constraints on power. Term limits are a constraint designed to protect long-term democratic health, even when they frustrate short-term majority will. Drawing on James Madison's Federalist No. 10, the argument is that factions can capture institutions, and structural checks are necessary to prevent entrenchment. Scholars Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt's work on democratic backsliding provides a modern framework, showing how leaders like Viktor Orbán in Hungary and Hugo Chávez in Venezuela won repeated elections while systematically weakening courts, media, and electoral oversight.

The episode also surveys global approaches—from Germany's informal two-term norm to South Korea's strict single-term limit—showing that every democracy must grapple with this tension. The central question remains: is a democracy that repeatedly re-elects the same leader still a democracy, or does it drift toward competitive authoritarianism?

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#3389: Term Limits vs. The Will of the People

Corn
Daniel sent us this one — and it's a live wire. Under current U.law, Trump can't run for a third term in twenty twenty-eight, but what if a majority of voters want him to? That's the tension. On one side, term limits look anti-democratic — why should a piece of paper override the will of the people? On the other side, if the same leader keeps winning, is that still a democracy or is it drifting toward autocracy? And then he points to Israel, where Netanyahu just keeps getting re-elected, and asks: does Israel even have term limits? So where do we start with this?
Herman
We start by admitting that term limits are philosophically strange. They're a rule that says democracy can't fully trust itself. You're telling voters: you can choose anyone except that person you keep choosing.
Corn
Which is a weird thing for a democracy to say.
Herman
And yet over eighty percent of presidential democracies have some form of term limit. So the world has largely decided this weird anti-democratic rule is necessary.
Corn
The world's democracies looked at the buffet and collectively said: yes, I'll have the self-restraint, and also the hypocrisy on the side.
Herman
That's the dish. So let's define the dissonance properly. Term limits are anti-majoritarian by design. They exist precisely to override majority preference in specific circumstances. You could have sixty percent, seventy percent of voters wanting someone to stay, and the constitution says no. That's not a bug — it's the feature. The question is whether that feature protects democracy or undermines it.
Corn
We've got two case studies that sit at opposite ends of the spectrum. The United States, with the Twenty-Second Amendment, ratified in nineteen fifty-one — no president serves more than two terms. And Israel, whose Basic Law on the Government imposes no term limit on the prime minister at all. Netanyahu has served over sixteen years across multiple stretches, and legally there's nothing stopping him from serving another sixteen.
Herman
The core question is this: is a democracy that repeatedly re-elects the same leader still a democracy, or does it drift toward something else? And how have political theorists actually grappled with this? Because it's not a new problem — it predates both Trump and Netanyahu by centuries.
Corn
The Romans had something to say about this, didn't they?
Herman
The Roman Republic had a principle called "collegiality" — two consuls serving one-year terms — specifically to prevent power concentration. And they had a mandatory ten-year gap between consulships. Cincinnatus was celebrated because he took power, did the job, and went back to his farm. The fear of permanent rule was baked into republican thinking from the start.
Corn
The original term limits guy was literally a farmer who didn't want the gig.
Herman
That ethos carried into the American founding. But here's the thing — the U.Constitution as originally written had no presidential term limits. Washington set the two-term precedent voluntarily, and it held as an informal norm for over a hundred fifty years.
Corn
Until FDR blew through it.
Herman
Nineteen thirty-two, thirty-six, forty, and forty-four. He died in office in nineteen forty-five, and within two years the Republican-controlled Congress proposed the Twenty-Second Amendment. It was ratified by the states on February twenty-seventh, nineteen fifty-one.
Corn
The amendment wasn't some noble philosophical statement — it was a direct reaction to one man holding power for twelve-plus years through the Depression and World War Two.
Herman
And the key driver was fear of executive overreach, not anti-democratic sentiment. The argument wasn't "voters are stupid." The argument was: the executive branch accumulates power with each successive term, and eventually the institutional checks become too weak. FDR had tried to pack the Supreme Court in nineteen thirty-seven. He'd created a vast administrative state. By the end, critics argued, the presidency had become too powerful for any one person to hold indefinitely.
Corn
The Twenty-Second Amendment is less about limiting voters and more about limiting the office itself from becoming a platform for permanent rule.
Herman
And that distinction matters philosophically. Let me bring in Madison here. In Federalist Number Ten, he argued that factions are the great threat to republican government. Not just mobs — organized interests that can capture institutions. His solution was structural: a large republic with checks and balances that make it hard for any one faction to dominate. Term limits fit squarely in that tradition. They're a structural check against factional entrenchment.
Corn
The Madisonian view says: even if a majority supports a leader, that majority might be a faction that's captured the state, and the constitution needs to protect against that. Which is a pretty paternalistic view of voters.
Herman
And that's exactly where the tension lives. The "will of the people" argument says: if sixty percent of voters want a third term, why should a seventy-five-year-old amendment override their sovereignty? And this isn't just theoretical. Pew Research did a poll in March twenty twenty-four — thirty-eight percent of Americans said they support repealing the Twenty-Second Amendment. That's not a fringe position.
Corn
What's the partisan split?
Herman
Fifty-two percent of Republicans support repeal, versus twenty-six percent of Democrats. So it's heavily asymmetric, which makes sense given that Trump is the only recent president who's openly mused about a third term.
Corn
If you're a Trump supporter, the logic feels airtight: we won, we should get to keep winning. That's how democracy works.
Herman
That's where political scientists like Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt push back hard. In their twenty eighteen book "How Democracies Die," they define something called democratic backsliding. The pattern isn't a coup. It's not tanks in the streets. It's elected leaders who win repeatedly and then use their mandate to weaken institutions from within — courts, the press, election oversight, the civil service. They win elections, but they hollow out the system that makes elections meaningful.
Corn
The nightmare scenario isn't that a popular leader declares himself emperor. It's that he wins fair elections while gradually making sure nobody else ever can.
Herman
That's the mechanism. And Levitsky and Ziblatt point to examples like Hugo Chávez in Venezuela, Viktor Orbán in Hungary, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in Turkey. All were democratically elected. All kept winning. All presided over democratic erosion.
Corn
Orbán's a good example. He's been prime minister since twenty ten — four consecutive terms. Hungary still holds elections. The ballots are counted. But the media landscape, the judiciary, the electoral system itself have been so thoroughly reshaped that the playing field is tilted beyond recognition.
Herman
That's the counterargument to the pure "will of the people" position. Democracy isn't just about counting votes on election day. It's about the conditions under which those votes are cast and counted. If the incumbent can use state resources, friendly media, and captured courts to make themselves unbeatable, then each successive election becomes less meaningful — even if the counting is technically accurate.
Corn
The anti-term-limits view treats democracy as a single moment: the election. The pro-term-limits view treats democracy as an ecosystem that needs to be maintained across elections.
Herman
That's beautifully put. And it's exactly the framework that political theorist Robert Dahl developed. Dahl is one of the giants of democratic theory — he wrote "Polyarchy" in nineteen seventy-one and basically defined how we think about democratic institutions. He identified this thing he called the "democratic paradox": democracies need both responsiveness to voters and constraints on power. You can't have one without the other, but they're in constant tension. Term limits are a constraint that, in theory, enhances long-term democratic health even when they frustrate short-term majority will.
Corn
It's like a marathon runner who stops for water. In the moment, stopping feels slower. Over the full race, it prevents collapse.
Herman
That's the idea. Now let's flip the script entirely and look at a country with no term limits at all: Israel.
Corn
Where the marathon runner never stops for water and everyone's arguing about whether he's still running or just wandering.
Herman
Israel's legal framework is completely different from the U.The Basic Law on the Government — originally passed in nineteen ninety-two and revised in two thousand one — sets no term limit for the prime minister. The only requirement is that the prime minister be a sitting member of the Knesset. There's no cap on years, no cap on consecutive terms, nothing.
Corn
Netanyahu has taken full advantage of that. He first served from nineteen ninety-six to nineteen ninety-nine, then came back from two thousand nine to twenty twenty-one, then returned in late twenty twenty-two. Total: over sixteen years as prime minister, making him the longest-serving leader in Israeli history, surpassing David Ben-Gurion.
Herman
The consequences of that extended tenure are exactly what the term limits debate is about. In twenty twenty-three, Netanyahu's government pushed a major judicial reform package that would have given the Knesset power to override Supreme Court decisions and given the government more control over judicial appointments. The response was the largest protest movement in Israeli history — over six hundred thousand people in the streets in March twenty twenty-three.
Corn
Six hundred thousand in a country of about nine and a half million. That's proportionally equivalent to about twenty million Americans protesting.
Herman
The core argument of the protesters was precisely about institutional erosion. They weren't just disagreeing with a policy. They were saying: the prime minister, after so many years in power, is reshaping the institutions that are supposed to check him. The Supreme Court, the attorney general's office, the civil service — all had been targets of long-term pressure.
Corn
Netanyahu's defenders would say: he kept getting elected. That's democracy. The protesters lost the election, they should accept it.
Herman
Which brings us right back to the paradox. If you keep winning elections while weakening the institutions that guarantee free elections, are you still a democrat? Or are you, as Levitsky and Ziblatt would say, a competitive authoritarian — someone who tolerates elections as long as they win them?
Corn
The "competitive" part doing a lot of work there.
Herman
It really is. Now, let me add some global context, because this isn't just a U.Different democracies have answered this question very differently. Germany: the chancellor has no formal term limit in the Basic Law, the Grundgesetz, but there's a strong informal convention against serving more than two terms. Konrad Adenauer served fourteen years, Helmut Kohl sixteen — both stepped down without being forced by law. France: since the two thousand eight constitutional reform, the president is limited to two consecutive five-year terms. South Korea: a single five-year term, no re-election allowed at all.
Corn
A single term is brutal. You barely figure out where the bathrooms are and you're out.
Herman
South Korea adopted that in their nineteen eighty-seven constitution specifically because of their history with authoritarian presidents. Park Chung-hee ruled for eighteen years, and the single-term limit was designed to make sure that could never happen again. The trade-off is that every South Korean president becomes a lame duck almost immediately, which creates its own governance problems.
Corn
Mexico has something similar — a single six-year term, no re-election ever. The "sexenio" — the six-year non-renewable term — was literally a reaction to Porfirio Díaz, who ruled for over thirty years.
Herman
And the Mexican rule is the most extreme version: not only can you not run again, you can never run again. Once you've been president, you're done forever. It's a constitutional flamethrower aimed at the problem of entrenchment.
Corn
We've got a spectrum. On one end, Israel and the UK — no formal term limits for the head of government, just the electoral process. On the other end, Mexico and South Korea — single terms, no re-election. , France, and most of Latin America sit somewhere in the middle with two-term limits.
Herman
There's actual empirical research on which approach works better. A twenty nineteen study published in the American Political Science Review — this was by political scientists at the University of Chicago and Princeton — looked at presidential term limits across a hundred thirty-seven countries from nineteen hundred to twenty ten. The finding: presidential term limits reduce the risk of democratic breakdown by about forty percent in new democracies.
Corn
Forty percent is enormous.
Herman
But here's the nuance: the effect was much weaker in established democracies. In countries with long democratic traditions and strong institutions, term limits mattered less. The protective effect was concentrated in countries where democracy was still fragile.
Corn
Which makes intuitive sense. If your courts are independent and your press is free and your civil service is professional, a popular leader can't easily dismantle those things even with multiple terms. If those institutions are already weak, term limits are a crucial backstop.
Herman
And that's the calibration problem. in twenty twenty-six is not Hungary in twenty ten. The question is whether American institutions are strong enough that the Twenty-Second Amendment is an unnecessary restriction on voter choice, or whether the last decade suggests those institutions are more fragile than we thought.
Corn
The Trump years put a lot of stress on norms that people assumed were unbreakable. The refusal to concede in twenty twenty, the pressure campaign on state election officials, the January sixth Capitol breach — those weren't institutional failures, exactly, but they revealed how much depends on people choosing to follow norms rather than being forced to.
Herman
That's the argument for keeping the Twenty-Second Amendment. It's not that Trump specifically would become a dictator in a third term. It's that the amendment removes the question entirely. You don't have to trust norms or hope for the best — the constitution simply says no.
Corn
Which is the Madisonian logic again. Don't rely on virtue.
Herman
Now, one misconception I want to address: a lot of people think term limits are exclusively an American thing, or exclusively a presidential-system thing. That's wrong. Over eighty percent of presidential democracies have term limits. But parliamentary systems often lack them — the UK has no term limit for prime minister, neither does Canada, neither does Australia. The theory is that in a parliamentary system, the prime minister can be removed by a no-confidence vote at any time, so a formal term limit is less necessary.
Corn
That theory breaks down when the prime minister's coalition is unshakable. Netanyahu has survived multiple no-confidence votes because his coalition held. Margaret Thatcher served eleven years. The parliamentary safety valve only works if the parliament actually uses it.
Herman
Israel's experience shows what happens when the safety valve rusts shut. Netanyahu's coalitions have been remarkably stable, and even when he was briefly out of power in twenty twenty-one to twenty twenty-two, he came back. The system didn't produce alternation — it produced a temporary interruption.
Corn
One thing that's striking about Israel is that there's no serious movement to introduce term limits. It's not part of the political conversation in any meaningful way.
Herman
Which is fascinating, because Israel's political system has been under enormous strain. The judicial reform crisis, the repeated elections — five elections in four years between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty-two — the deep polarization. You'd think term limits would at least be on the table as a reform proposal.
Corn
Part of it might be that Israel's proportional representation system already produces coalition governments, so the prime minister is always constrained by partners. In theory, anyway. Another part is that the right-wing bloc sees Netanyahu as irreplaceable, and the left-wing bloc doesn't want to concede that his longevity is the problem — they want to beat him at the ballot box.
Herman
Which gets at something deeper. Term limits are, in a sense, an admission of failure. They're a confession that the normal democratic process can't produce alternation on its own. That's a hard thing for a democracy to admit about itself.
Corn
"We can't trust ourselves to fire the guy, so we're building a self-destruct mechanism into the job.
Herman
That's the unflattering version. The more generous version is: we're building a failsafe. Like a circuit breaker. It's not that we expect the house to catch fire, but if it does, we want something that trips before the whole thing burns down.
Corn
Let me try to synthesize the theoretical side here. We've got the pure democratic position — term limits are illegitimate constraints on popular sovereignty. We've got the Madisonian position — term limits are structural safeguards against factional capture. And we've got the Dahl position — democracies need both responsiveness and constraint, and the right balance depends on context. Is that a fair map?
Herman
That's the map. And I'd add one more layer: the empirical evidence says term limits matter most where institutions are weakest, which suggests the Dahl framework is right — the answer isn't universal, it's calibrated.
Corn
For a country like the United States, with two centuries of constitutional tradition, strong courts, and a professional civil service, you could argue the Twenty-Second Amendment is overkill. The institutions can handle a third term.
Herman
You could argue that. The counterargument is that the Twenty-Second Amendment is part of why those institutions are still strong. It's not an external constraint — it's woven into the fabric. Remove it, and you change the incentives for everyone downstream. A president who can run again governs differently than one who can't. Donors behave differently. Opponents behave differently. The media behaves differently.
Corn
A lame duck's power is fundamentally different from a potential three-term president's power.
Herman
That's what critics of repeal worry about. It's not that Trump wins a third term and declares martial law. It's that the mere possibility of a third term changes the behavior of everyone around him — more deference, less willingness to challenge, more pressure on institutions to align with the executive.
Corn
The chilling effect before the fact.
Herman
Now let's look ahead. The twenty twenty-eight U.election is going to test the Twenty-Second Amendment's resilience in a very concrete way. Trump has made comments — sometimes joking, sometimes less joking — about a third term. There's a faction within the Republican Party that genuinely supports repeal. And if Trump were to push for it seriously, the legal path would be daunting — a constitutional amendment requires two-thirds of both houses of Congress and ratification by three-quarters of the states. That's almost impossible in the current political environment.
Corn
"almost impossible" has done a lot of work in American politics lately.
Herman
And there are fringe legal theories floating around — the argument that the Twenty-Second Amendment only prohibits being "elected" to a third term, not succeeding to one. Could Trump run as vice president on a ticket where the presidential candidate resigns immediately after inauguration? It's a wild theory, and most constitutional scholars dismiss it, but the fact that it's even being discussed tells you something about the moment.
Corn
It tells me people are looking for loopholes in a document that was specifically designed to have no loopholes on this point.
Herman
Meanwhile, Israel has an election scheduled for October twenty twenty-six. Netanyahu will presumably lead Likud again. If he wins, he extends his tenure further into uncharted territory. And the question of what prolonged rule does to Israeli democracy will become even more acute.
Corn
The two cases are running in parallel, testing opposite hypotheses. is testing whether a term limit can hold against a popular leader who wants to break it. Israel is testing whether a democracy without term limits can maintain institutional health against a leader who keeps winning.
Herman
Neither test has a clear answer yet. But the empirical literature suggests we should be watching Israel more nervously. The countries that slid into competitive authoritarianism in the twenty-first century — Hungary, Turkey, Venezuela — all did so without formal term limits. The erosion happened through elections, not despite them.
Corn
If you're a listener trying to think about term limits in your own country, what's the framework? How do you evaluate whether a proposed limit is good or bad?
Herman
I'd use the Dahl framework. Ask two questions. First: does this limit protect against genuine entrenchment, or does it arbitrarily restrict voter choice? If your country has weak courts, a captured media, and a history of executive overreach, term limits are probably a necessary safeguard. If your country has robust institutions and a long history of peaceful alternation, term limits might be less urgent. Second question: is the limit calibrated to your political system? A single six-year term like Mexico's makes sense for a country with a history of thirty-year dictatorships. A two-term limit like the U.makes sense for a presidential system with strong separation of powers. No term limit at all might make sense for a parliamentary system with a strong no-confidence mechanism — but only if that mechanism actually works.
Corn
If the no-confidence mechanism is a paper tiger, you're basically Israel.
Herman
You're Israel. Or you're the UK under a leader with a massive majority. The system works until it doesn't.
Corn
The other thing I'd add is: watch the courts. In every case of democratic backsliding, the judiciary is the first major target. When a long-serving leader starts attacking judicial independence, that's the canary in the coal mine. It's not about policy disagreements — it's about whether the leader is trying to remove the institution that can rule against them.
Herman
That's exactly what happened in Hungary, in Poland, in Turkey, and what protesters feared was happening in Israel in twenty twenty-three. The pattern is so consistent across countries that it's almost diagnostic.
Corn
Term limits are one tool among many. They're not a silver bullet. South Korea has a single-term limit and still had a president impeached for corruption — Park Geun-hye in twenty seventeen. A term limit didn't prevent abuse of power. But it did ensure she couldn't run again.
Herman
Term limits don't guarantee good governance. They guarantee rotation. And rotation, by itself, has value. It brings fresh perspectives. It prevents the accumulation of patronage networks. It normalizes the idea that power is temporary.
Corn
The peaceful transfer of power is a habit, not a law of nature.
Herman
Habits need reinforcement. That's what term limits do — they reinforce the habit of alternation.
Corn
Let me ask you something forward-looking. As AI and social media reshape political campaigns — hyper-targeted messaging, deepfakes, algorithmic amplification — do term limits become more or less important?
Herman
I think they become more important, and here's why. The tools for manufacturing consent are getting dramatically more powerful. A charismatic incumbent with access to the full machinery of state communication and AI-driven persuasion can build an electoral fortress that's extremely hard to breach. In that environment, the "will of the people" becomes harder to interpret. Is it genuine support, or is it the product of a media ecosystem that's been systematically tilted? Term limits become a backstop against the possibility that technology has made elections less meaningful.
Corn
The counterargument would be: if technology empowers incumbents, then term limits are even more anti-democratic, because you're taking away the voters' only tool for keeping a good leader against a technological headwind.
Herman
That's fair. But it assumes voters are perfectly rational information-processors, which fifty years of political psychology says they're not. The whole point of Madisonian design is that you don't assume perfect voters. You build systems that work with imperfect ones.
Corn
"If men were angels, no government would be necessary.
Herman
Federalist Fifty-One. The founders weren't optimists about human nature. They were institutional pessimists. And term limits are an expression of that pessimism — a bet that power, over time, corrupts even the well-intentioned.
Corn
Where does that leave us? Term limits are philosophically anti-democratic but empirically protective of democracy. They're a confession of institutional fragility that might actually strengthen institutions. And the right answer depends on context, but the trend line globally is toward more limits, not fewer.
Herman
The big open question for the next few years is whether the established democracies — the U., Israel, others — will hold their current positions or shift. The twenty twenty-eight U.election and Israel's October twenty twenty-six election are going to provide a lot of data.
Corn
Data that we'll be living through in real time.
Herman
Which is both exciting and terrifying, depending on your temperament.
Corn
I'm a sloth. I prefer my history in retrospect.
Herman
So to wrap up: give listeners a mental model. When you hear a term limit debate in your own country, don't just ask "does this restrict voter choice?" Ask "does this protect against entrenchment?" The Dahl framework — balancing responsiveness and constraint — is the most useful lens. And watch the courts. When a long-serving leader starts attacking judicial independence, the term limit conversation just got urgent.
Corn
If your country doesn't have term limits and nobody's talking about them, ask why. Sometimes the absence of the conversation is the most revealing thing.
Herman
That's the Israel case in a sentence.
Corn
Now: Hilbert's daily fun fact.

Hilbert: In the nineteen fifties, scientists studying the venom of the South American rattlesnake — Crotalus durissus terrificus — discovered that its venom contains a protein called crotoxin, which is not a single toxin but a complex of two subunits that only become fully neurotoxic when they bind together outside the snake's body, a biochemical two-key system that researchers at the time described as "nature's safety catch.
Corn
The rattlesnake evolved DRM for its own venom.
Herman
Nature's safety catch. I'm going to be thinking about that one.
Corn
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Herman
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Corn
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Herman
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