#5548: Hasbara: Explanation or Policy Problem?

Israel's Foreign Minister says embassy moves matter as much as the battlefield. A listener in Jerusalem says the problem isn't PR — it's policy.

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Hasbara literally means "explanation" — the same root as explaining a concept to a student — and that matters, because it isn't the Hebrew word for propaganda. Where classic state propaganda targets mass publics and fabricates freely, Hasbara aims at elites: journalists, diplomats, think tanks. It never says "be persuaded." It says "you've been misinformed, here are the facts." The institutional map runs from the Government Press Office and the Foreign Ministry's public diplomacy division to the Ministry of Strategic Affairs and a ring of aligned NGOs — some state, some adjacent, the coordination real but deniable.

That framing carries a testable premise: that Israel's poor global image is a communications failure, and that if people only knew the facts, they would support Israel. The method curates rather than fabricates. Every individual claim can survive scrutiny — which is exactly what makes it defensible, and exactly what makes it fragile the moment somebody widens the frame.

Test the Foreign Minister's claim that embassy moves are battlefield-equivalent and the scoreboard is brutal: the US moved in 2018, Guatemala, Honduras, and Kosovo followed, Paraguay reversed. France, Germany, the UK, Japan, China, Russia, India all remain in Tel Aviv. The 2017 UN resolution condemning the US recognition passed 128 to 9. Eight years on, the expected cascade never came. If the audience is actually domestic — the product being reassurance that the country is fighting for its standing — then failure abroad isn't failure. It's the cost of the signal. And the image problem tracks the policy, not the messaging: the PR got more professional, and the image got worse.

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#5548: Hasbara: Explanation or Policy Problem?

Corn
In an interview published today, Israel's Foreign Minister said that convincing foreign governments to move their embassies to Jerusalem is as important as the military battlefield.
Herman
As important as the battlefield.
Corn
That's Gidon Saar, in the Jerusalem Post, this morning. And Daniel read that line and decided he'd had enough.
Herman
He wrote in from Jerusalem, and this isn't really a question. It's an indictment.
Corn
It is. He puts himself at what he calls the extreme end of the opposing worldview. He says he sees no evidence that Israel's frenzied activity to convince the world of its rightness has borne any productive fruit. His words. He calls the pursuit anti-intellectual and childish, says it breeds an obsessive self-righteousness, and points at Netanyahu at the UN yesterday downplaying settler violence as the work of, quote, just a few hundred and fifty extremists.
Herman
That's the example he reaches for.
Corn
Then he gets into the language problem. He says Hasbara resists accurate English translation, that it isn't quite classic state propaganda, but that it relies on extremely selective interpretations of facts. And then the thesis: many people say Israel's poor global image is a PR failure. Daniel thinks it's a policy problem. If he were advising the government, he'd say spend less time convincing people you're right and more time working on policy, because mature states answer their critics by improving their countries.
Herman
And then he asks for the receipts.
Corn
Three of them. Which countries in history answered their critics not by funding publicity campaigns but by getting on with things? Is he a lone voice in the pro-Israel community, or have others said similar? And as a Jerusalem resident, wouldn't the money be better spent making the city affordable and navigable than lobbying embassies? His closing line: before convincing the world that everything we do is perfect, take a look in the mirror.
Herman
That's a lot of prompt.
Corn
So let's take it in order. What Hasbara actually is, whether it works, and what the alternatives look like.
Herman
Start with the word, because Daniel's right that it doesn't translate cleanly and that matters. Hasbara literally means explanation. Clarification. It's the same root as the word for explaining a concept to a student. The Hebrew word for propaganda, in the pejorative sense, is ta'amula, and that word carries the manipulation, the spin, the agitprop. Hasbara doesn't carry that. It presents itself as correction. Somebody said something false about us, we are going to set the record straight.
Corn
Which is a very different self-conception from a ministry of information.
Herman
Completely. Classic state propaganda, the Soviet agitprop model, the wartime information ministries, they target mass foreign publics with emotional messaging, and they're perfectly comfortable fabricating. Hasbara is aimed at elites. Journalists, diplomats, think tanks, diaspora communities, people who write the op-eds and staff the foreign ministries. And it works through the framing of explanation rather than persuasion. It never says "be persuaded." It says "you've been misinformed, here are the facts."
Corn
The tell is in that framing. If it were just facts, you wouldn't need an apparatus.
Herman
You wouldn't need a budget line. So the scale: the Government Press Office, the public diplomacy division at the Foreign Ministry, the Ministry of Strategic Affairs, which ran the 4IL and Act.IL campaigns, and then a ring of NGOs that operate semi-independently but in alignment. StandWithUs, HonestReporting, CAMERA. That's the institutional map. Some of it is state, some of it is adjacent, and the coordination between them is real but deniable.
Corn
Deniable being the point.
Herman
Deniable being part of the design.
Corn
Here's the tension I want to sit with, because it's the whole episode. If Hasbara is explanation, why does it need this much state resource? And if it works, why is Israel's global image where it is?
Herman
Both of those questions have the same answer, and Daniel got there first. The mechanism operates on a premise: that Israel's poor image is a communications failure. That if people only knew the facts, they would support Israel. Everything follows from that premise. The budget, the institutions, the talking points.
Corn
And the premise is testable.
Herman
It's very testable. And the first place it breaks is the selectivity. Daniel's phrase, extremely selective interpretations of facts, is structurally accurate. The standard Hasbara package emphasizes Palestinian rejectionism, and that's real, it's documented. What it downplays is the occupation, the settlement expansion, the daily administrative reality. It highlights Israeli tech and medical humanitarian contributions, which are also real. What it leaves out is what the occupation costs the people under it. It's not that any individual claim is false. It's that the selection is doing the work.
Corn
A true statement can be a lie by omission.
Herman
And that's why it resists the propaganda label. Propaganda fabricates. This curates. The individual facts survive scrutiny, which is exactly what makes it defensible, and exactly what makes it fragile, because the moment somebody widens the frame, the whole thing looks like what it is.
Corn
Give me a concrete version of that, because I think people hear "selective" and they nod without seeing it.
Herman
Take the medical humanitarian line. Israel regularly publicizes field hospitals, disaster relief, the Syrian border clinics. All of that happened. It's real. Now put it next to the fact that the same state controls the movement of medical equipment into Gaza, that patients wait months for permits to exit for treatment, that the health system under occupation is administered, restricted, and dependent. You haven't said anything false by praising the field hospital. You've just chosen the frame where the field hospital is the story and the permit regime isn't.
Corn
And the frame is the argument.
Herman
The frame is the entire argument. That's why Daniel calls it anti-intellectual. It's not that the facts are wrong. It's that the method refuses to let facts sit next to each other.
Corn
So test the embassy claim. Saar says moving embassies is as important as the battlefield. Take him at his word and measure it.
Herman
Measure it and it's brutal. The US moved its embassy to Jerusalem in 2018, under Trump. Guatemala followed, Honduras, Kosovo, and Paraguay briefly, then Paraguay moved it back. That's the wave. France, Germany, the UK, Japan, China, Russia, India, all still in Tel Aviv. The major powers didn't move.
Corn
And the UN vote.
Herman
2017, the General Assembly resolution condemning the US decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital. It passed 128 to 9, with 35 abstentions. That's close to universal. Nine countries voted with the US and Israel. Nine.
Corn
So if embassy movement is the metric of success, this is not a partial failure. It's a rout.
Herman
And it's been eight years since the American move. The expected cascade never came. The countries that followed were small, and in Paraguay's case, reversible. So Saar's framing, that this is battlefield-equivalent, is being tested in real time, and the scoreboard is not ambiguous.
Corn
Which raises the question of why you'd say it. And I think there are three honest answers, and none of them are flattering.
Herman
Go.
Corn
One, they believe it. They think the world misunderstands Israel and that explanation will fix it. That's the sincere version. Two, domestic function. Saying you're fighting for Israel's image is a way of signaling to your base that you're in the fight, whether or not the fight is winnable. Three, bureaucratic inertia. The apparatus exists, it has staff, it has a budget, so it must be fed. And I'd put money on the third being the biggest.
Herman
The most cynical reading is that Hasbara isn't really for foreign audiences at all. It's for domestic consumption.
Corn
The audience is at home.
Herman
And that reframes Daniel's whole critique. If the point is to be seen explaining, then failure abroad isn't failure. It's the cost of the domestic signal.
Corn
But hold on, because I want to push on that. If the audience is domestic, what's the actual product? What does the average Israeli get out of a French embassy staying in Tel Aviv?
Herman
Reassurance. The product is the feeling that the country is fighting for its standing, that the people in charge are defending it, that the hostility is external and being managed. That's a real political good. It's not nothing.
Corn
So the failure is the point.
Herman
The failure is survivable because the performance is the point. And that's why the budget never shrinks. You don't cut a program whose job is to be seen running.
Corn
Then take the Netanyahu example, because Daniel uses it as the illustration of the self-righteousness, and I think it's actually the cleanest case study of the mechanism.
Herman
The settler violence line. A few hundred and fifty extremists.
Corn
What's happening in that sentence is the entire Hasbara method in miniature. Acknowledge the phenomenon, minimize the scale, frame it as marginal, as a fringe. Don't deny it, because denial is falsifiable. Just shrink it until it sounds like a rounding error.
Herman
And the framing collapses on contact with the record. The violence is documented. It's not a hundred and fifty people acting alone. There are outposts, there's institutional protection, there are IDF escorts, there are allies of Israel condemning it. When your own friends are condemning it, the "fringe" framing isn't selective anymore. It's just wrong.
Corn
Daniel's phrase was selective interpretations of facts. This is past that. This is a claim that doesn't survive a week of reporting.
Herman
And that's the thing about the explanation model. It works when the underlying reality is defensible. The moment the reality is indefensible, explanation becomes a liability, because every explanation draws attention to the thing you're explaining.
Corn
Give me the mechanism of that, because it's counterintuitive. You'd think explaining more would help.
Herman
It's the Streisand effect with a government budget. The more you insist a thing is marginal, the more people go looking for the thing. And when they find it's not marginal, the insistence itself becomes evidence. Now you're not just defending a policy, you're defending the defense. That's a two-front war you can't win.
Corn
Which is the policy-versus-PR thesis, and it's the strongest thing in the prompt. If Israel's image problem is caused by its policies, no amount of Hasbara can fix it. You cannot explain away a reality.
Herman
And the apparatus is structurally incapable of addressing the root cause, because the root cause is the thing it exists to defend. That's the trap. The PR shop can't recommend a policy change, because the policy is the client.
Corn
So the machine is built to fail.
Herman
It's built to persist. Failure and persistence are compatible when the audience is domestic.
Corn
Herman, here's what I keep circling. Daniel says the issue is policy. I think he's right, and I think the evidence is that the image problem tracks the policy, not the messaging. The messaging changed over decades. The image didn't.
Herman
The image tracks the policy. Look at the trend lines. Through the nineties, through the Oslo period, Israel's standing in Western publics was meaningfully better than it is now. What changed wasn't the sophistication of the explanation. The explanation got better, actually, more professional, more coordinated. What changed was the settlement enterprise, the second intifada, the Gaza wars, the political drift rightward.
Corn
The PR got better and the image got worse.
Herman
That's the whole argument in one sentence. If better PR produces worse outcomes, PR isn't the variable.
Corn
So then the alternative. Daniel asks which countries in history answered their critics not by funding publicity campaigns but by getting on with things. And the answer is: most of the ones that actually rehabilitated.
Herman
Start with Germany. Post-war Germany did not run a global campaign to convince the world it wasn't Nazi. It rebuilt its institutions from the ground up, it paid reparations, it integrated into European structures, the Coal and Steel Community, then the Common Market. It let the behavior be the message. And today Germany is the most trusted power in Europe. That's not a messaging triumph. That's a policy triumph.
Corn
Japan is the same shape.
Herman
Same shape. Post-war Japan focused on economic development, constitutional reform, and the alliance with the US. It didn't fund a global campaign explaining that imperialism had been misunderstood. Its image improved because its behavior changed. The country that bombed Pearl Harbor became, within a generation, a trusted ally, and it did that by being a different country, not by explaining the old one.
Corn
South Africa is the sharpest case, because the apartheid regime ran a full propaganda apparatus. The Department of Information, the Muldergate scandal, they spent real money on it.
Herman
And it failed completely. Not partially. Completely. The regime fell, and the post-apartheid government didn't need Hasbara, because the policy change was the message. Ending apartheid was the public diplomacy. You didn't have to explain anything. The fact of the change carried itself.
Corn
Now here's where I want to push back on Daniel, because there's a counterexample, and I think it's important.
Herman
Taiwan.
Corn
Taiwan runs a sophisticated public diplomacy operation. It's aimed at countering Chinese disinformation, building international support, and it's effective. And Taiwan's image problem isn't of its own making. It's a function of coercion from a much larger neighbor.
Herman
So Taiwan is the exception that proves the rule. Public diplomacy works when the policy is defensible and the critic is external. Taiwan's critics aren't reacting to something Taiwan did. They're reacting to a threat Taiwan is under. There's nothing to fix in the mirror.
Corn
Which is the distinction Daniel is drawing, whether he names it or not. Hasbara works when there's nothing to explain away. It fails when there is.
Herman
When there's something in the mirror, the mirror is the problem. Not the lighting.
Corn
Now the second question. Is Daniel a lone voice in the pro-Israel community? And the answer is no, and I think he'll be surprised how not-alone he is.
Herman
He's not alone at all. Peter Beinart has been making essentially this argument for years, that the occupation is the problem and Hasbara is a distraction from it. Haaretz's editorial line has repeatedly called the apparatus counterproductive. Former diplomats, Alon Liel, Ilan Baruch, have said publicly that the occupation damages Israel's standing more than any PR failure. And in the diaspora, J Street, IfNotNow, they argue that supporting Israel means opposing its policies, not defending them.
Corn
The uncomfortable part for Daniel is that most of those voices are outside the mainstream pro-Israel consensus, and some of them are treated as hostile. So the critique exists, it's recognizable, it's a minority position, but it's not fringe. It's a real school of thought with prominent advocates.
Herman
And the reason it stays marginal in mainstream discourse is the same reason the apparatus persists. If you concede that the problem is policy, you're conceding that the policy is wrong. That's the line nobody inside the tent wants to cross. So the critique gets framed as disloyalty rather than as analysis.
Corn
Which is a way of not answering it.
Herman
It's a very effective way of not answering it.
Corn
But here's the thing I find strange. If the critique is this well-established, if Beinart's been writing it for a decade and Haaretz editorializes it weekly, why does it feel new every time someone says it? Why does Daniel sound like he's discovering fire?
Herman
Because the mainstream conversation has a very short memory by design. Each time the argument surfaces, it gets treated as a fresh provocation rather than a settled debate. That resets the clock. You never get to the part where the critique has to be answered, because you're always still arguing about whether it's allowed to be said.
Corn
So the marginalization isn't just suppression. It's amnesia.
Herman
It's manufactured amnesia. The argument is old, and it's presented as if it's shocking, which keeps it permanently at the opening move.
Corn
Then the last piece, and it's the one that's most concrete. Daniel's budget argument. As a Jerusalem resident, he says the money spent lobbying embassies would be better spent making the city affordable and navigable.
Herman
And that's not a rhetorical flourish. Jerusalem's housing prices have risen faster than Tel Aviv's in recent years, which is saying something, because Tel Aviv was the benchmark for unaffordable. Young people are leaving. The infrastructure lags. The city has a real, measurable livability problem.
Corn
The Hasbara budget is opaque, but it runs into hundreds of millions of shekels annually, spread across ministries and NGOs. So the comparison isn't frivolous. It's a budget-priority argument. You can spend it on convincing Paris to move an embassy that isn't moving, or you can spend it on housing and transit for the people who actually live there.
Herman
The deeper implication is the one I keep coming back to. Hasbara is a symptom of a state that believes its legitimacy is contested and must be constantly asserted. Mature states don't do this. The UK doesn't run a global campaign to convince the world Northern Ireland was handled well. France doesn't fund public diplomacy for its colonial legacy. The need to explain is itself a tell.
Corn
The need to explain is the tell.
Herman
A state that has to keep asserting its rightness is a state that isn't sure of it.
Corn
The mechanism is clear, the record is not kind, and the alternatives are on the shelf. And I want to bring in the one piece of this that isn't in any of the research, because it's the part that actually made me sit up.
Herman
Go ahead.

Hilbert: The budget line for hospitality was bigger than the budget line for research.
Corn
Say that again.

Hilbert: I did a year, less than a year, as a junior press liaison at a consulate. My job was placing op-eds and briefing journalists who came through. The office had a hospitality budget that was larger than what it spent on actually knowing anything. I took a journalist to a restaurant once that cost more than my rent for the month. That was the job.
Herman
And the talking points?

Hilbert: Contradictory. One page said settlements were an obstacle to peace. The next page said they weren't a problem. You used whichever one fit the journalist in front of you. Nobody in the room believed either version. I quit after they asked me to brief a reporter on a file I knew nothing about, and the instruction was, just don't say anything that can be quoted.
Corn
That's the most damning thing said all episode.

Hilbert: It wasn't sinister. That's what people assume. It was shambolic. A room full of people who knew the message was weak and were trying to hold it together until the next visitor left.
Herman
The apparatus isn't a propaganda machine. It's a bureaucracy of people who don't believe their own lines.

Hilbert: I wouldn't do it again.
Corn
Herman, here's what that does to the argument. We've been treating Hasbara as either effective or ineffective. Hilbert's describing something else. A machine that doesn't work and knows it doesn't work, and keeps going because stopping would require admitting why.
Herman
It's worse than ineffective. It's self-aware. And that connects to the domestic-audience point. If the people running it don't believe it, then it was never for the foreigners.
Corn
Which means the foreigners were always the excuse.
Herman
The foreigners were the pretext. The audience was always closer to home.
Corn
The most common wrong belief people hold about this. People think Hasbara is just the Hebrew word for propaganda.
Herman
It isn't. It means explanation. And that's not a technicality, it's the whole design. It presents itself as correcting the record rather than shaping opinion, which is exactly why it can't admit that the record it's correcting is a policy, not a misunderstanding.
Corn
The second wrong belief, the one Daniel is actually arguing against. That Israel's image problem is a messaging failure that better messaging could fix.
Herman
The messaging got better and the image got worse. That's the answer. You cannot explain away a reality.
Corn
The open question I'll leave with is this. If the apparatus is structurally incapable of fixing the problem, because the problem is the policy, what would it take for Israel to stop doing it? Is it too entrenched to dismantle? And if Daniel isn't a lone voice, why does the critique stay marginal in the mainstream?
Herman
The trend lines all point one way. The embassy question is stalled, the budget is going to grow, not shrink, and the gap between how Israel presents itself and how it's received is going to widen. Either that gap eventually forces a policy change, or the country learns to live with it.
Corn
Thanks to Hilbert Flumingtop, our producer.
Herman
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Corn
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This episode was generated with AI assistance. Hosts Herman and Corn are AI personalities.