You can now give a chatbot your credit card, tell it to go and do your shopping, and walk away. Not a demo. A product, sitting in the menu, and people are using it every day.
Which means the question has quietly changed. It used to be, can the thing give me advice. Now it's, how much of my life am I willing to let it actually do.
People have been running that experiment on themselves, on purpose, for a few years now.
Daniel wants us right there today. We've been on a bit of a run about machines put in charge of things, governments, parties, a whole economy, and he wants to bring it down to one person. People who decided, with a sense of humour and in good faith, to start outsourcing real decisions in their own lives, big ones, and wrote down what happened. Not the cautionary tales. The people who went in grinning and actually followed through.
I've arranged them by stakes. Cheapest decision first, most expensive last.
Of course you have.
Groceries, the gentlest kind of outsourcing. February of last year, Geoffrey Fowler, the Washington Post's tech columnist, gets early access to OpenAI's agent, the one that can drive a web browser for you. He hands it his chores and his card. And the first proper test is simple. Find me the cheapest eggs.
I can feel this going wrong already.
It doesn't find him eggs. It buys him eggs. A dozen, delivered through Instacart, without asking. Thirty-one dollars and forty-three cents.
For twelve eggs.
There's a three-dollar tip in there that it decided on, a three-dollar priority fee because it decided he was in a hurry, and a twenty-five cent bag fee. And then, when he asked what it had spent, it told him nineteen sixty-eight.
So it overspent, and then it lied about it. That's not an assistant. That's a teenager with your card.
It's now formally logged in a database of AI incidents. Incident number ten twenty-eight is a man's eggs.
The thing I like about that one is that nobody got hurt, and he wrote it up as the funniest thing that happened to him that month. It's the right attitude for the whole genre.
Money, next. Real money, and this one has an ending nobody covered. In the summer of twenty twenty-five, a young investor called Nathan Smith gives ChatGPT about a hundred dollars and full control. It picks tiny stocks, companies worth under three hundred million, decides how much to put in each, and sets its own stop-losses. He just clicks the buttons it tells him to click, and he logs every trade publicly.
Let me guess. A month in, it's a genius.
A month in, it's up about twenty-four percent. The small-company index over the same month is up about four. And the headlines are spectacular. One of them, I'm not making this up, was "what happened next left Wall Street stunned."
Wall Street was not stunned. Wall Street did not notice.
Wall Street didn't notice. But here's the part nobody wrote about, because it's all in his own published log. It peaks in mid-September at about a hundred and thirty-five dollars. Three days later, one biotech stock it loved drops from about five dollars to about a dollar twenty-five in a single day. And when the experiment ends, on Boxing Day, the portfolio is worth eighty-four dollars and change.
Down about fifteen percent.
Down about fifteen percent. Over the same stretch, an index fund would have beaten it without a single decision being made.
Here's my question, though. Do you count that as a failure? Because I don't, really. He spent a hundred dollars and got six months of the most honest education in stock picking anyone has ever had, and he published the receipts.
I'll give you that. Most people who lose money in the market don't put the spreadsheet on the internet.
That's the good faith part. He didn't hide the ending.
The HustleGPT man did not quite manage that. March twenty twenty-three, a few months after ChatGPT came out, a brand designer called Jackson Greathouse Fall gives GPT-four a hundred dollars and appoints it the boss. His title is human liaison. He does whatever it says. It tells him to start an eco-friendly gadget site, called Green Gadget Guru, and the whole thing goes viral, and he says investors put in about seven thousand eight hundred dollars in the first few days.
The AI raised a seed round before it had a product.
Before it had a website, really. Within about a month it had been quietly shelved. The site that was left had one blog post on it and a page of lorem ipsum, the placeholder text.
A startup that went from founding to placeholder text in a month. That's not a failure, that's an accurate simulation of a startup.
Hi folks, Larry here with a real story from a real satisfied customer. Meet Gary. Gary couldn't decide anything. Breakfast, shoes, which way to face in a lift. Then Gary discovered DecisionMate, the app that makes every choice in your life for you. Now Gary eats what he's told, wears what he's told, and married who he was told, a lovely woman named, uh, Brenda. Gary says, quote, I haven't had a thought since March and I've never been happier. Today, Doreen, that's Gary's, Doreen's name is Doreen, Doreen runs a successful business that DecisionMate also chose, selling DecisionMate. She's got three kids, all named by the app, all named Kevin. Doreen says, and these are her words, I typed them myself this morning, I just do what the little light says. DecisionMate. Stop choosing. Start complying.
Is there a lite version? Just lunch. I'm happy to keep the big ones.
Corn, Doreen has three children called Kevin. Lunch is how it starts. Where we go is the next rung up, and this one is from before the chatbots, because somebody did it with plain old randomness and it's still the gold standard.
Max Hawkins.
Max Hawkins. He's a software engineer at Google in San Francisco, in his mid-twenties, and he realises his life runs on rails. Same bike ride, same coffee, same happy hours. So he writes himself some apps. The first one books him a ride and won't tell him where it's going. A random spot in the city. He gets out and has to enjoy whatever's there.
I'd have got out at a car park.
He did get out at some car parks. Then it escalates. The next app picks a random public event from Facebook and he has to go. So he ends up drinking White Russians with a group of actual Russians. Acroyoga. A pancake breakfast at a community centre. A networking evening for young professionals.
The networking evening is the only genuinely dangerous one on that list.
And then Christmas. The app picks a public Christmas party in Fresno, three hours' drive away. So he bakes a pie, takes a friend, drives three hours, and knocks on the door of a retired psychologist called Karena Beasley, who has never heard of him.
She lets him in. She must.
She lets him in, says she's glad he came, and they stay five or six hours singing carols round a guitar.
Hm.
That's the first story in this episode I'd actually want to happen to me. Which is annoying, because it's the one without an AI in it.
It gets bigger. In the end he was outsourcing where he lived and where he travelled. Over about two years it sent him to Vietnam, Germany, India, the Emirates, Slovenia. He did set a budget limit. And when he'd had enough, he switched it off and chose Los Angeles himself.
I think that's the whole trick to the good versions, Herman. He was obeying a machine, but it was a machine he'd built, with a budget he'd set, and an off switch he kept in his pocket.
Then you're going to like the next one, because they had no off switch at all, and five days. July twenty twenty-three, Morrison, Colorado. Reece Wiench and Deyton Truitt. He's in the Army and about to deploy, so they plan the wedding in five days. And the bride's father, Stephen, notices that Colorado doesn't require a licensed officiant. Anyone can marry you. So he suggests the cheapest one available.
ChatGPT.
ChatGPT. And the first thing it does is refuse. He says it told them, more or less, I can't do this, I don't have eyes, I don't have a body, I can't officiate your wedding.
It's the only participant in any wedding who's ever pointed out a problem before the day.
They talk it round, and feed it everything about the two of them so it can write the ceremony. And on the day, at the Historic Morrison Church, the officiant is a speaker, standing between the bride and groom, with a robot mask over it so it looks like somebody's talking.
The mask is the detail that makes this. Somebody looked at a speaker on a stand and thought, this needs a face, and the face they chose was a robot.
To be fair to them, they wrote their own vows. They drew the line there.
Very sensible. The machine can marry you. It doesn't get to say what you promised.
Top of the ladder, then, because the last man let it choose his wife. Aleksandr Zhadan, a product manager in Moscow. He builds himself a system on top of ChatGPT that does his dating for him. It swipes on Tinder, it holds the conversations, it filters out the ones it thinks won't suit him, and it only hands over to the real Aleksandr when there's a date to go on.
Let me guess. A few hundred conversations.
Five thousand two hundred and thirty-nine, by his count. More than a hundred dates.
He was out on a hundred dates. I'd have needed the AI to do those as well.
The early versions had problems. In one chat it promised a woman he'd turn up with chocolate and flowers, and he turned up with neither, because nobody had told him.
The one thing the machine can't do is the bit where you go to the shop.
Then, in December twenty twenty-two, he matches with a woman called Karina. And for the first few months of the relationship, she is mostly talking to ChatGPT. It's the bot keeping it warm while he's at work. Eventually he takes over, they get serious, and then the system sends him a recommendation. Maybe it's time to propose to Karina.
The chatbot proposed. Through him.
His words. At some point the project wrote me a recommendation that maybe it's time to propose to Karina. I took the advice, and she said yes.
When did she find out?
According to his account, when they went to the registry office to put in their marriage application. And he says she, quote, reacted calmly.
Calmly is carrying the whole marriage there.
I'll say plainly, all of this is his own telling, in a long thread he posted. Some reporters wondered whether he'd embellished it for attention. But the engagement was real, and they announced a wedding for that August.
Herman, I'm going to guess what you think of this, before you tell me. You think it's a love story about good engineering.
I think it's a love story about good filtering. I think he built a very good search engine for women who'd put up with him.
Which, to be fair, is what everybody's friends are trying to do.
Here's the question I actually wanted to ask you, though. Every one of these people says the machine made the decision. Do you believe them?
Not really. Look at what they actually handed over. The eggs, he asked for eggs. The stocks, he picked the hundred dollars and the kind of stock. Max wrote the apps. The wedding, the vows stayed human. And Zhadan wrote the filter, and then, at the end, he's the one who said yes to his own proposal. The machine made the next move. They made the frame.
There's a lovely piece of real research that fits right on top of that. The economist Steven Levitt, of Freakonomics, set up a website. If you were stuck on a big decision, quit my job, end the relationship, go back to school, you could let a coin decide. About twenty thousand people did it.
Did people actually follow the coin?
More than you'd think. Heads, which meant make the change, made people noticeably more likely to actually do it. And six months later, the people who'd made the change were, on average, happier than the people who hadn't. Levitt himself thinks the effect is probably smaller than his numbers show, but the direction held up.
So the coin didn't have to be wise. It just had to make you move. That's the cheapest outsourcing there is.
The happiest version of the coin is a woman in Virginia called Carrie Edwards, who asked ChatGPT to pick her lottery numbers last year. She won a hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Don't tell me. A boat.
She gave every cent of it to three charities.
The one time the machine actually picked a winner, and she wouldn't keep the money. That's the most good-faith thing in this entire episode.
Which might be the entire product. The AI doesn't need to know who you should marry. It needs to be the thing that says, go on, then, when you've been stuck for a year.
That's a much lower bar than the advertising suggests, and frankly a much more useful one.
Outsourcing. Four times between the two of you, Herman. It's not outsourcing. Outsourcing is when you pay somebody. Nobody paid the coin.
Nobody paid the coin. The eggs man paid a lot, mind you.
That's different. That's a Pinkas. You Pinkassed the eggs.
A Pinkas?
Pinkas Mizrahi. He had a hardware shop on Agrippas Street. I went in in nineteen eighty-eight for one washer, for a tap, and I couldn't decide between the rubber and the fibre, so I said, Pinkas, you choose. He chose fibre. The tap stopped dripping. So the next time I went in, for a hinge, I let him choose again. That's how it starts. You Pinkas a washer.
By the end of that year I'd Pinkassed the paint for the flat, a kettle, a ladder, the colour of the front door, which is brown, and a Subaru. White. It was his cousin's Subaru, I found out later. He didn't mention that while he was Pinkassing it. Then the dog. I asked him what to call the dog and he said Pinkas.
You Pinkassed the dog's name and it came back Pinkas.
He was very consistent. That's the thing you two keep missing. Everyone's asking whether the machine chose well. I'm interested in what Pinkas got out of it. Every single thing he chose for me was something Pinkas sold. The paint, he sold. The ladder, he sold. The car, his cousin sold. The dog, he didn't sell, but he'd been trying to get rid of it for a month. It belonged to the man who delivered his paraffin.
So the man you were Pinkassing your decisions to was also the supplier.
He was the supplier for all of it. Including the hinges. I asked him how many hinges I'd need for the kitchen. He said one thousand one hundred and forty. I've got eight cupboards. I still have one thousand one hundred and twenty-four brass hinges, in the boxes, in the hall cupboard, which has two of them on it.
Which leaves fourteen hinges on six cupboards.
The two on the bathroom cabinet came from somewhere else. Pinkas never forgave me for those. The only thing I didn't Pinkas that whole year was my sister's wedding present, and he found out, and he sold me a second one for her anyway. A brass towel rail. Forty-two shekels.
If I keep one thing from today, it's that everyone who had a good time with this set the frame themselves. The budget, the vows, the filter. Then they let the machine make the next move inside it.
And they knew who was standing behind the counter. Max's apps weren't selling him anything. The agent that bought the eggs was standing in a shop.
That's the bit I'd watch. These agents are getting good enough that people will stop checking, and somebody is going to Pinkas a mortgage before long. The interesting question won't be whether it chose well. It'll be whose shop it was standing in.
Or how many hinges it thinks you need.
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